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A Social Faux Pas That Will Immediately Lose You Friends in Mexico

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A day at "El Rancho." Don't miss out on the most beautiful aspect of Mexico - its people.

Updated 2019

Or "How to Lose a Mexican Friend Almost Immediately"

Not long ago, I invited a Mexican girlfriend over for dinner at the house where I stay in Guadalaraja. She arrived around ten at night. In between Heinkekins (Mexicans' favorite beer) and spaghetti (my go-to dinner in unfamiliar kitchens), we shared a little about our family histories.

I marveled to myself how much a woman from rural Oklahoma could have in common with a woman from rural Sonora, Mexico. We had both elected lives independent of our families and moved out of state. We both took risks that were unconventional in our day. She was her family's first college graduate and left her pueblo. I was the only person I knew of from my hometown to go to college in Europe.

Being the only daughter in a family of 11 children, my friend had been under considerable pressure to stay and take care of the aging parents. She managed to support them better than her 10 brothers even after she'd moved to another town, hours away.

We both had struck out into the unknown and knew its price. My friend doesn't have a large network of family support like most Mexicans have. I too know that loneliness.  All of this ground was covered in my very imperfect Spanish, proving that you don't have to speak the language perfectly to develop intimate friendships. 

Most expats, however secretly, crave Mexican friends. Even with a large expat social circle, expat still know that they are missing out without them.  You see groups of Mexicans your age and ache to participate in the warmth and camaraderie that's distinct to Latin culture. This is particularly true if you are female. It is common to see large tables of Mexican women in restaurants seemingly doing nothing more than cooing at one another.

If not the language then, what are some of the barriers Anglos erect to friendship?  Where do many potential friendships go off the rail before they even begin? 

The clue can be found in the scenario I just described, the one where I mentioned my friend coming over for dinner at 10:00 at night.

Imagine for a minute that you're back home in the U.S. or Canada. You are visiting a friend at his house. It is a little later than usual. You are enjoying yourself. You're telling your host a story or anecdote. You see him glance at his watch, or he/she stands up and stretches.

How does that make you feel?

Now multiply that feeling by ten. That's how your prospective Mexican friend feels when you indicate in any way that you are ready for the sack when they are visiting you, including that stretching we do. "But", you may say, what if I am really tired?  What if I did a lot of housework or didn't sleep well the night before. What about my bedtime?”

So what do you do when they don't leave when you're ready to retire?

You buck up, soldier. 

And I don't mean making it obvious you're tired;  the nearly passive-aggressive barely concealed yawn, the letting your eyes droop and responding minimally to what's going on in the hope that they'll notice and leave - the method that works so well at home. Sure, your new Mexican friend will leave. Unlike your friends at home, however, they will not come back. I have this on very good authority.

Instead of surrendering to your personal comfort, you must engage. You must respond with whatever energy you can summon, tapping all your resources (coffee… tequila) if necessary. Otherwise, you can requisition yourself to a limited range of social options that include solely insulated expats with their happy hours at 5:00 p.m. and their lunches on Tuesdays. 

Maybe that's okay with you. 

In this specific blog, however, I'm talking to the select subset (most likely this won't be my most popular blog.) who want more, those who are willing to put as much time into learning some Spanish as they do watching television and reading novels in order to make a few Mexican friends.

These are the expats or potential expats who really do want the adventure of living in Mexico (They are also those who can intuit how important Mexican friends might be to the budget, as they know a great deal about costs in Mexico that expats do not).

In general, Mexicans operate on different biological clocks than Americans, at least two hours later. Mexicans go to work later, often take over an hour for lunch if they are middle managers or bosses (they go home, give the office to underlings and don't come back until after 2:00 and then work until 7 or so). Dinner might be at 9-10 at night.

I have gone to parties in Mexico and seen 90-year women sitting quietly in the corner wide awake at 3:00 a.m. They've kept this schedule their entire lives. They understand that these parties are the important occasions for family bonding. Even when they aren't saying a word, they are fully aware, these old women, watching the antics of the couples, teenagers and younger adults around them.

Many expats proudly announce their precious bedtimes to the world and then seem bewildered that they never get invited to Mexican social events and functions in spite of their passable Spanish. Mexicans soon give up on stopping by when expats lower the shade at 8:00. I can't help but think many of these expats are going to wish they'd summoned up their reserves, fought off their fatigue and shared some body heat while they could. Making friends just gets harder, not easier as we get older.

Just like in college, some of the most revealing, bonding conversations you'll ever have will take place after midnight when people's guards are down. These moments don't always come at your convenience, or on your sleep schedule. 

You cannot expect Mexico to conform to your sleep schedule any more than you can expect it to speak your language.  You are not a slave to your body clock.  You have probably forgotten how you gradually shifted your sleep schedule from all-nighters  and sleeping 'till noon when you graduated from college in order to keep a 9-5 job.  Your schedule change was not your body clock dictating its terms but rather vocational exigencies.

Do not surrender to a grumpy expat schedule. Take a mid-afternoon nap.  Drink a spot of coffee around 4:00.  Do a little exercise later than you otherwise might. Grab a nap at 8:00 and take that invitation to salir at 10:30 at night. Experiment with their routine and see if you can not align yours a little better to the rest of the hive.

Otherwise, you will find yourself continually arriving too late to the cultural buffet table.  The real occasions, the party everyone talks about, will be starting two hours after you leave.  

You  want to answer the door and stay up with your Mexican friends for the same reason you will stay awake for your grandchildren, and for the same reason that you used to have one more drink with your boss: They are important to your life.

Whenever we are together, we are in each other's keeping.

 Everything is not all about you, by the way.

So buck the f**k up. 

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Hi, I'm Kerry Baker and author of two books. The first is the Interactive Guide to Learning Spanish Free Online. Get started now to be conversational in Mexico. Get bored too easily? The number of tools in this book will enable you to have a different lesson every day, with free tools you'll never find in a Google search. Use it with a laptop (like I do on my elegant Acer Aspire) or a tablet or e-reader.

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